Just did a "proof of concept" hour with the new PAC12 I recently got. 19 QSOs on 40m with the PAC12 ground mounted , with 6 short radials, and the K1 at 4 watts. I'm not a fan of small "miracle" antennas, but this thing works pretty well, for what it is. Fine WX for FD.,,,,hope everyone is having fun! John K5MO Clayton NC